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I have considered the same situation. And I've checked the pronunciation of “失”, it includes “thất” and “thắt”, which are closer to “thiết”, but not “sắt”. Then, I also checked the character for “thiết”, then I found that most dictionaries use the simplified form 鉄 for for “thiết”, which includes Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Bonet, Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Genibrel, and Da Nang Chunom Dictionary (1996). <br/>Based on the above, I assume that the simplified character 鉄 would be designed not only for “sắt”, but for both 鐵(thiết) and “sắt”. Because most dictionaries use the same Chuhannom for “thiết” and “sắt”, so I use the same traditonal form 鐵 for both “thiết” and “sắt”. If you think 鉄 is better, we can consider to use it as the standard form, but better the same Chuhannom for both “thiết” and “sắt”. | I have considered the same situation. And I've checked the pronunciation of “失”, it includes “thất” and “thắt”, which are closer to “thiết”, but not “sắt”. Then, I also checked the character for “thiết”, then I found that most dictionaries use the simplified form 鉄 for for “thiết”, which includes Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Bonet, Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Genibrel, and Da Nang Chunom Dictionary (1996). <br/>Based on the above, I assume that the simplified character 鉄 would be designed not only for “sắt”, but for both 鐵(thiết) and “sắt”. Because most dictionaries use the same Chuhannom for “thiết” and “sắt”, so I use the same traditonal form 鐵 for both “thiết” and “sắt”. If you think 鉄 is better, we can consider to use it as the standard form, but better the same Chuhannom for both “thiết” and “sắt”. | ||
<small>{{lang|zh|我也考虑到了这种情况。后来查了“失”的越文发音(thất, | <small>{{lang|zh|我也考虑到了这种情况。后来查了“失”的越文发音(thất, thắt),发现更接近“鐵”(thiết),因此覺得“鉄”不一定是專門為 sắt 而造。之後又查了 thiết 對應的漢喃字,發現大多數字典也都用了簡化的“鉄”字(包括 Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Bonet, Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Genibrel, Da Nang Chunom Dictionary (1996))。<br/>於是我推測“鉄”應該同時是“鐵”(thiết) 和“sắt”的異化文字。鑒於“thiết”和“sắt”在多數字典里用的是同一個字,因此我也用了同一個“鐵”字表記“thiết”和“sắt”。如果你覺得“鉄”更合適,我們也可以考慮用它做為標準字,但我個人覺得“thiết”和“sắt”都用同一個字好。<br/>不好意思沒提前跟你交流就擅自修改了,下回注意,哈哈~}}</small>--[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 15:59, 次𠀧, 𣈜23𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT) |