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* '''家'''
* '''家'''
#“家”、“茄”二選一。--[[成員:井浩澤|井浩澤]] ([[討論‐成員:井浩澤|討論]]) 10:15 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
#“家”、“茄”二選一。--[[成員:井浩澤|井浩澤]] ([[討論‐成員:井浩澤|討論]]) 10:15 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
#Is 家 like a kunyomi here? Whatever I prefer to 家. [[成員:Truongsom|Truongsom]] ([[討論‐成員:Truongsom|討論]]) 10:40 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
#這是少數幾個我支持用訓讀的字（也許不是訓讀）。Though 訓讀, I support it anyway.--[[成員:Keepout2010|<ruby><rb>杜澎栩</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Đỗ Bành Hủ</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>]]（[[討論‐成員:Keepout2010|討論]]） 11:10 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
# I generally use 家 because it only has 2 readings and 'gia' is always easy to tell apart by context. -{{fbu-cvd}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# I use 家 for Nhà. - {{fbu-jkw}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 12:29 𣈜5𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# I choose 家 if not misleading -- [[成員:Congdantoancau|Congdantoancau]] ([[討論‐成員:Congdantoancau|討論]]) 02:35、次𠄼、𣈜17𣎃4𢆥2014 (ICT)


* '''茹'''
* '''茹'''
 
# "如" for pronunciation, "艹" for meaning. It is a reasonable and frequently used Nom. --[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:05 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
# [https://www.facebook.com/groups/hannom.revival/permalink/690462874319009/] - {{fbu-chd}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# [https://www.facebook.com/groups/hannom.revival/permalink/690462874319009/] - {{fbu-lg}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# 茹. - {{fbu-zag}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# [https://www.facebook.com/groups/hannom.revival/permalink/690462874319009/] - {{fbu-aasq}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:26 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# now I use 茹. {{fbu-nvk}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# 茹 [http://goo.gl/d7UB1A] - {{fbu-tn}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 09:50 𣈜21𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# This is more commonly used, therefore I choose this. --[[成員:KTran98|KTran98]] ([[討論成員:KTran98|討論]]) 09:45, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)


* '''伽'''
* '''伽'''
 
# [https://www.facebook.com/groups/hannom.revival/permalink/690462874319009/] - {{fbu-gh}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}


* '''茄'''
* '''茄'''
#“家”、“茄”二選一。--[[成員:井浩澤|井浩澤]] ([[討論‐成員:井浩澤|討論]]) 10:15 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
#“家”、“茄”二選一。--[[成員:井浩澤|井浩澤]] ([[討論‐成員:井浩澤|討論]]) 10:15 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
# [https://www.facebook.com/groups/hannom.revival/permalink/690462874319009/] - {{fbu-chd}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# [https://www.facebook.com/groups/hannom.revival/permalink/690462874319009/] - {{fbu-lg}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# [https://www.facebook.com/groups/hannom.revival/permalink/690462874319009/] - {{fbu-lhh}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:26 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# 茄. -{{fbu-tc}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:35 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# This question is a little more difficult than the others, as there are two characters very commonly used. 菇 and 茄. Both are characters used as sound loans (the first means "fungus" and the second "aubergine", and the HV sound isn;t very close either. The three Vietnamese Classics, Luc Van Tien, Truyen Kieu, and Chinh Phu Ngam all have 茄, but the Tam Thien Tu, Huinh Tinh Paulus, Bonet, and Genibrel all have 菇. However I would still suggest the usage of the Vietnamese classics over the dictionaries and go for 茄 as my choice. - {{fbu-kk}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
# I prefer 茄. - {{fbu-nm}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 12:29 𣈜5𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
* '''Other'''
:* 庌
:# I usally stick with the most common character, but I avoid loan characters. Both 家 gia and 茹 nhự are loans, so we have to choose the etymon 庌 nhà. Both meaning and sound do not fit, so using 庌 would be better. I was using 家 long time before, and then switched to 庌 .. I never used 茹, because it has the wrong radical, and a completely different sound. characters pronounced nha should have a phonetic pronounced nha . and not như. - {{fbu-sd}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
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版㵋一𣅶21:27、𣈜5𣎃5𢆥2017

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The voting was finished and the Standard Nom has been determined (Please do not change the contents). - 茹 - 8/23 (34.8%), >60-Day. SaigonSarang (討論) 21:27, 次𦒹, 𣈜5𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)

  • 家
  1. “家”、“茄”二選一。--井浩澤 (討論) 10:15 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
  2. Is 家 like a kunyomi here? Whatever I prefer to 家. Truongsom (討論) 10:40 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
  3. 這是少數幾個我支持用訓讀的字（也許不是訓讀）。Though 訓讀, I support it anyway.--杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)（討論） 11:10 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
  4. I generally use 家 because it only has 2 readings and 'gia' is always easy to tell apart by context. -Chung Van Dao ［SaigonSarang (討論) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  5. I use 家 for Nhà. - Jonathan Kòng Wattana ［SaigonSarang (討論) 12:29 𣈜5𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  6. I choose 家 if not misleading -- Congdantoancau (討論) 02:35、次𠄼、𣈜17𣎃4𢆥2014 (ICT)
  • 茹
  1. "如" for pronunciation, "艹" for meaning. It is a reasonable and frequently used Nom. --SaigonSarang (討論) 17:05 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
  2. [1] - Châu Hải Đường ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  3. [2] - Lại Giang ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  4. 茹. - 朱愛國 ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  5. [3] - Arben Anthony Saavedra Quitos ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:26 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  6. now I use 茹. Nguyễn Việt Khôi ［SaigonSarang (討論) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  7. 茹 [4] - Trung Nguyen ［SaigonSarang (討論) 09:50 𣈜21𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  8. This is more commonly used, therefore I choose this. --KTran98 (討論) 09:45, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
  • 伽
  1. [5] - Goto Hiroki ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  • 茄
  1. “家”、“茄”二選一。--井浩澤 (討論) 10:15 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)
  2. [6] - Châu Hải Đường ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  3. [7] - Lại Giang ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:22 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  4. [8] - Lê Huy Hoàng ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:26 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  5. 茄. -Tiếu Chi ［SaigonSarang (討論) 17:35 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  6. This question is a little more difficult than the others, as there are two characters very commonly used. 菇 and 茄. Both are characters used as sound loans (the first means "fungus" and the second "aubergine", and the HV sound isn;t very close either. The three Vietnamese Classics, Luc Van Tien, Truyen Kieu, and Chinh Phu Ngam all have 茄, but the Tam Thien Tu, Huinh Tinh Paulus, Bonet, and Genibrel all have 菇. However I would still suggest the usage of the Vietnamese classics over the dictionaries and go for 茄 as my choice. - Kadri Kirikumees ［SaigonSarang (討論) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  7. I prefer 茄. - Nandemo Meiyou ［SaigonSarang (討論) 12:29 𣈜5𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
  • Other
  • 庌
  1. I usally stick with the most common character, but I avoid loan characters. Both 家 gia and 茹 nhự are loans, so we have to choose the etymon 庌 nhà. Both meaning and sound do not fit, so using 庌 would be better. I was using 家 long time before, and then switched to 庌 .. I never used 茹, because it has the wrong radical, and a completely different sound. characters pronounced nha should have a phonetic pronounced nha . and not như. - 成員:Sky Darmos Sky Darmos ［SaigonSarang (討論) 20:56 𣈜3𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)］
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