討論成員:SaigonSarang

Re: Quocngu-Hannom Converter Feedback

All words checked and updated. I'll send a new version soon. Thanks and I'm willing to see more corrections! ----杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 18:55 次四 𣈜11𣎃3𢆥2015 (ICT)

Re: Why 成員:Keepout2010/標準漢喃(New_List) was deleted?

In fact I don't mean that the content is useless. Instead, I've archived them in my PC just for a republish with a complete list of Han-Noms. What is abolished is just some choice of characters, not the explanation after them. I'm now a kind of busy so I'll publish it later. Or, you can help me to sort it out in a complete A-Z list if possible. 杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 01:18, 次𠀧, 𣈜5𣎃1𢆥2016 (ICT)

New chosen characters in a complete list are here. You can refer the format that was used in 成員:Keepout2010/標準漢喃(New_List) to start the work. I'll also start it soon. 杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 01:29, 次𠀧, 𣈜5𣎃1𢆥2016 (ICT)

Why use 鐵 for sắt?

In both Dictionnaire Annamite-Français and Dictionnaire Annamite-Français, sắt is written as 鉄. I think that this character is not a "俗字" of "鐵" but a new phono-semantic compound characters (形聲字): 金 as radical and 失 as phonetic.
兩字典中 sắt 都作「鉄」。我認爲此字並非「鐵」之俗字,而是「從金,失聲」的一個喃字,只是恰好和漢字文化圈內其他地區的「鐵」俗字同形了而已。--杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 13:28, 次𠀧, 𣈜23𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT)

Re: Understood. Now I think it's reasonable. One thing interesting: From Proto-Vietic *k-rac ‎(“iron”). Perhaps a borrowing from Old Chinese 鐵/铁 (SV: thiết); compare Proto-Sino-Tibetan *hljak. This means that they are probably cognates and now they share a same character again lol. --杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 18:58, 次𠀧, 𣈜23𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT)

易「城舖」爲「城庯」之議

可參考此處。-杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 19:53, 次𠀧, 𣈜9𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)

其實我之前在某群提過這個問題的。的確有可能是「城庯」。--S7w4j9 (討論) 16:32, 次𠄼, 𣈜11𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)

余編輯之論據亦同上,望斟酌定奪。-七个点 (討論) 23:33, 次𠄼, 𣈜11𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)

Thanks for the explanation. Is 庯 here a Chunom or Chuhan?--SaigonSarang (討論) 11:50, 次𦉱, 𣈜27𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)
Possibly a Nom, but Vietnamese use it even in Văn ngôn. 似爲喃字,然於漢文越人仍以之正。杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 03:40, 主日, 𣈜28𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)
Yes, I saw 庯 in the source you just provided, and the articles are in Classical Chinese. So it probably a Chuhan. And, do you think 庯 is a Variant character of another Chuhan? @Keepout2010 --SaigonSarang (討論) 11:13, 主日, 𣈜28𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)
In Chinese there're just examples with completely different meanings Example 1Example 2. Anyway, 舗/鋪 don't have an variant written as 庯. Another point I need to say is that I did not change the original text when I reprinted an article from the wiki incubator years ago, and neither did I study it. This may be the reason that later participants also used this character. I think since there are enough evidences, it's reasonable to use a character that has more support.漢文「庯」諸義皆遠殊於「舗/鋪」,不似其異體。初余未攷其字,直錄漢喃於 Wiki Incubator,後之覽者以爲正字,以是未嘗更易也。今既存文獻,當循其本。--杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 02:17, 次𠀧, 𣈜30𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)
@Keepout2010: I personally agree with you. I'm going to open a discussion page about "Thành phố", for collecting more opinions. --SaigonSarang (討論) 10:48, 次四, 𣈜31𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)

君將板母:歡迎置於余“成員頁”為何故?

余不解甚矣。-七个点 (討論) 23:44, 次𠄼, 𣈜11𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)

Sorry for the mistake. I've revised it. Thanks.--SaigonSarang (討論) 11:46, 次𦉱, 𣈜27𣎃1𢆥2018 (+07)