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 == Why use 鐵 for sắt？ ==
-*In both Dictionnaire Annamite-Français and Dictionnaire Annamite-Français, sắt is written as 鉄. I think that this character is not a "俗字" of "鐵" but a new phono-semantic compound characters (形聲字): 金 as radical and 失 as phonetic.
+In both Dictionnaire Annamite-Français and Dictionnaire Annamite-Français, sắt is written as 鉄. I think that this character is not a "俗字" of "鐵" but a new phono-semantic compound characters (形聲字): 金 as radical and 失 as phonetic.
-*兩字典中 sắt 都作「鉄」。我認爲此字並非「鐵」之俗字，而是「從金，失聲」的一個喃字，只是恰好和漢字文化圈內其他地區的「鐵」俗字同形了而已。----[[成員:Keepout2010|<ruby><rb>杜澎栩</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Đỗ Bành Hủ</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>]]（[[討論‐成員:Keepout2010|討論]]） 13:28, 次𠀧, 𣈜23𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT)
+<br/>兩字典中 sắt 都作「鉄」。我認爲此字並非「鐵」之俗字，而是「從金，失聲」的一個喃字，只是恰好和漢字文化圈內其他地區的「鐵」俗字同形了而已。--[[成員:Keepout2010|<ruby><rb>杜澎栩</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Đỗ Bành Hủ</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>]]（[[討論‐成員:Keepout2010|討論]]） 13:28, 次𠀧, 𣈜23𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT)
+:Re: Understood. Now I think it's reasonable. One thing interesting: ''From Proto-Vietic *k-rac ‎(“iron”). Perhaps a borrowing from Old Chinese 鐵／铁 (SV: thiết); compare Proto-Sino-Tibetan *hljak. '' This means that they are probably cognates and now they share a same character again lol. --[[成員:Keepout2010|<ruby><rb>杜澎栩</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Đỗ Bành Hủ</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>]]（[[討論‐成員:Keepout2010|討論]]） 18:58, 次𠀧, 𣈜23𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT)