# This character is the most commonly used and the simplest out of the 2 most voted. --[[成員:KTran98|KTran98]] ([[討論成員:KTran98|討論]]) 09:16, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
# This character is the most commonly used and the simplest out of the 2 most voted. --[[成員:KTran98|KTran98]] ([[討論成員:KTran98|討論]]) 09:16, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
* '''𪝬'''(亻碎)
* '''碎'''(亻碎)
# Though 碎 may be the most traditional one, I prefer to adding 亻 to make the meaning clearer.-[[成員:Keepout2010|<ruby><rb>杜澎栩</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Đỗ Bành Hủ</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>]]([[討論‐成員:Keepout2010|討論]]) 12:05 𣈜27𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)
# Though 碎 may be the most traditional one, I prefer to adding 亻 to make the meaning clearer.-[[成員:Keepout2010|<ruby><rb>杜澎栩</rb><rp>(</rp><rt>Đỗ Bành Hủ</rt><rp>)</rp></ruby>]]([[討論‐成員:Keepout2010|討論]]) 12:05 𣈜27𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)
# since CJVK-ExtC was available, I prefer 𪝬(亻碎) for both 我 and 臣. - {{fbu-nvk}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:35 𣈜27𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)}}
# since CJVK-ExtC was available, I prefer 碎(亻碎) for both 我 and 臣. - {{fbu-nvk}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 17:35 𣈜27𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)}}
:# Because it's easy? annnnnd........倅 makes more sense because it has 人 in it ?
:# Because it's easy? annnnnd........倅 makes more sense because it has 人 in it ?
:# I think that 卒 fits best, but since 卒 is quite common (similarly 碎 is also a common character) I think that 倅 is the most logical option and follows the same logic as 𪝬, but is even easier to write.--[[成員:Rly189|Rly189]] ([[討論成員:Rly189|討論]]) 16:21, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
:# I think that 卒 fits best, but since 卒 is quite common (similarly 碎 is also a common character) I think that 倅 is the most logical option and follows the same logic as 碎, but is even easier to write.--[[成員:Rly189|Rly189]] ([[討論成員:Rly189|討論]]) 16:21, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
:* 卒
:* 卒
:#Just aS 卒 IS ok. / 卒 就可以,没必要用 碎. 但我认为用碎也没有错,只是选择而已! - {{fbu-tc}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 09:40 𣈜2𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
:#Just aS 卒 IS ok. / 卒 就可以,没必要用 碎. 但我认为用碎也没有错,只是选择而已! - {{fbu-tc}} {{pp|[[成員:SaigonSarang|SaigonSarang]] ([[討論‐成員:SaigonSarang|討論]]) 09:40 𣈜2𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)}}
番版𣅶19:12、𣈜17𣎃3𢆥2025
Tôi¹
㐌 (đã) 確定 (xác định) The standard Nom has been determined according to the 格撰𡨸喃 and Voting rule. Please leave a message here if you disagree with the result.
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The voting was finished and the Standard Nom has been determined (Please do not change the contents). - 碎 - 11/25 (44.0%), >60-Day. SaigonSarang (討論) 21:22, 次𦒹, 𣈜5𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
I will use 碎 for Tôi (I, me ...) and (臣卒) for: Bề tôi (courtiers). / In this case I will use 碎. - Châu Hải Đường [SaigonSarang (討論) 17:35 𣈜27𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)]
碎. there is only this one character listed in giúp đọc Nôm và Hán Việt. anything which is missing there I regard as super-rare. and therefore I would never choose it. - 12/27, 8:59pm 成員:Sky DarmosSky Darmos [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:08 𣈜30𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)]
Ok… now I could check Truyen Kieu, Luc Van Tien, Tam Thien Tu, Ngu Thien Tu, Taberd and Huinh Tinh Paulus all have 碎. I've seen this one 臣卒 once, I think in the Nhat Thien Tu, I would choose 碎. / Yes, that was actually the original meaning of the word, I think, before it became a general word for "I", and in texts like Truyen Kieu it has shades of that meaning. I would say it's a bit like saying "your humble servant" instead of "I" in English. I think many texts will use 碎 for all of the different shades of meaning. / yes, that one. - Kadri Kirikumees [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:08 𣈜30𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)]
i prefer 碎 because it is the most common on old texts.....but for purposes of differentiation from standard Chinese i will accept the usage of 亻碎. - 12/27, 3:47pm Arben Anthony Saavedra Quitos [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:25 𣈜30𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)]
[1] How can there be any doubt that it is something else than 碎? / yes 碎, only in Neo-Nom I would maybe use 倅. Trung Nguyen [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:32 𣈜30𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)]
Hi,for "me/I" you can use”碎“, others can be accepted but this is best choice. - Nguyễn Ngọc Thanh [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:40 𣈜2𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)]
This character simplest - Trần Viễn Fiơng (討論) 02:44、次𠄼、𣈜17𣎃4𢆥2014 (ICT)
This character is the most commonly used and the simplest out of the 2 most voted. --KTran98 (討論) 09:16, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
碎(亻碎)
Though 碎 may be the most traditional one, I prefer to adding 亻 to make the meaning clearer.-杜澎栩(討論) 12:05 𣈜27𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)
I prefer (亻碎) but since it's not yet encoded I replace it with 碎 or (colloquially) 倅. - 2/27, 5:22pm Chung Van Dao [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:25 𣈜30𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)]
I often use 亻碎 when writing "tôi" in Nôm. - Nam Long [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:56 𣈜2𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)]
I will use either 倅 or 吾+卒. / then it would be 倅 as the other character is extremely rare. / then the middle ooe is 石 and mean rock and again what is the point in having such one in there. Wouldn't 倅 make more sense. - 朱愛國 [SaigonSarang (討論) 17:35 𣈜27𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)]
Because it's easy? annnnnd........倅 makes more sense because it has 人 in it ?
I think that 卒 fits best, but since 卒 is quite common (similarly 碎 is also a common character) I think that 倅 is the most logical option and follows the same logic as 碎, but is even easier to write.--Rly189 (討論) 16:21, 次𠀧, 𣈜2𣎃5𢆥2017 (ICT)
卒
Just aS 卒 IS ok. / 卒 就可以,没必要用 碎. 但我认为用碎也没有错,只是选择而已! - Tiếu Chi [SaigonSarang (討論) 09:40 𣈜2𣎃1𢆥2014 (ICT)]