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vi-Hnom → vi-Hani

Facebook上的朋友Trung Nguyen说:「the ISO 15924 conforming code for Vietnamese written in Chu Nom is vi-hani」。

因此将越南语(汉喃)的代码改为「vi-Hani」。

如果对界面产生影响,请在 Preferences 里面修改一下吧。--SaigonSarang (討論) 11:29 𣈜16𣎃11𢆥2013 (ICT)

建議

建議在每個條目內文第一句話中的條目名後加上注音。即參考日文維基百科的做法。這樣也可以幫助大家學習漢喃。如:

歷史越南裊倂自𣅶𣎏𩈘𡥵𠊚生𤯩時㐌𣎏行萬𢆥𠓀公元、群倂自欺家渃得形成時𡤓曠自欣4000𢆥𠓀低(遶傳說)。 → 歷史越南(lịch sử việt nam)裊倂自𣅶𣎏𩈘𡥵𠊚生𤯩時㐌𣎏行萬𢆥𠓀公元、群倂自欺家渃得形成時𡤓曠自欣4000𢆥𠓀低(遶傳說)。

--SaigonSarang (討論) 15:36 𣈜19𣎃12𢆥2013 (ICT)

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您好

請問這裡有沒有有關喃字書寫的方針頁面?例如如何選用喃字之類。Wyang (討論) 07:30 𣈜6𣎃3𢆥2014 (ICT)

About 原則譯各名詞𥢆㗂日

Chao ban!

I proposed several principles for translating Japanese proper nouns into Vietnamese (Han-Nom).

Could you please share your opinions with us?

You can come here to discuss with us: 討論‐標準化𡨸喃:原則譯各名詞𥢆㗂日

Cam on ban! --SaigonSarang (討論) 17:27 次𠄩 𣈜5𣎃1𢆥2015 (ICT)

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Why 成員:Keepout2010/標準漢喃(New_List) was deleted?

I think it is a good list, but why you annotated 廢 after it?--Betoseha (討論) 20:33, 次𠀧, 𣈜29𣎃12𢆥2015 (ICT)

Re: Why use 鐵 for sắt?

I have considered the same situation. And I've checked the pronunciation of “失”, it includes “thất” and “thắt”, which are closer to “thiết”, but not “sắt”. Then, I also checked the character for “thiết”, then I found that most dictionaries use the simplified form 鉄 for for “thiết”, which includes Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Bonet, Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Genibrel, and Da Nang Chunom Dictionary (1996).
Based on the above, I assume that the simplified character 鉄 would be designed not only for “sắt”, but for both 鐵(thiết) and “sắt”. Because most dictionaries use the same Chuhannom for “thiết” and “sắt”, so I use the same traditonal form 鐵 for both “thiết” and “sắt”. If you think 鉄 is better, we can consider to use it as the standard form, but better the same Chuhannom for both “thiết” and “sắt”.

我也考虑到了这种情况。后来查了“失”的越文发音(thất, thắt),发现更接近“鐵”(thiết),因此覺得“鉄”不一定是專門為 sắt 而造。之後又查了 thiết 對應的漢喃字,發現大多數字典也都用了簡化的“鉄”字(包括 Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Bonet, Dictionnaire Annamite-Français Genibrel, Da Nang Chunom Dictionary (1996))。
於是我推測“鉄”應該同時是“鐵”(thiết) 和“sắt”的異化文字。鑒於“thiết”和“sắt”在多數字典里用的是同一個字,因此我也用了同一個“鐵”字表記“thiết”和“sắt”。如果你覺得“鉄”更合適,我們也可以考慮用它做為標準字,但我個人覺得“thiết”和“sắt”都用同一個字好。
不好意思沒提前跟你交流就擅自修改了,下回注意,哈哈~
--SaigonSarang (討論) 15:59, 次𠀧, 𣈜23𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT)

I agree with you. That's why we have 古漢越音 and 越化漢越音. :P --SaigonSarang (討論) 09:06, 次四, 𣈜24𣎃2𢆥2016 (ICT)

About the file file:chucmungnammoi2019.png

1. What is the name of the font you use? seems not Han-Nom Minh. 2. What do you think about the standard nom of "mới"? --SaigonSarang (討論) 19:33、 主日、 𣈜10𣎃2𢆥2019 (+07)

回覆:invoke

好像說之前服務器升級時,弄了個BUG,然後現在要等站主來修。(剛剛查不出BUG究竟在哪裏,只能合十祈禱站主歸來)--S7w4j9 (討論) 23:18、 次𠄩、 𣈜15𣎃4𢆥2019 (+07)

@S7w4j9: Do you know what bug it is? I am going to contact the server provider.--SaigonSarang (討論) 09:39、 次𠄼、 𣈜18𣎃4𢆥2019 (+07)

@SaigonSarang: When there's a reference (<ref>), 「纇內部」 will happen. --杜澎栩(Đỗ Bành Hủ)討論) 18:11、 次𦉱、 𣈜20𣎃4𢆥2019 (+07)

@Keepout2010: Quite busy recently. I'm going to check it later. Thank you. --SaigonSarang (討論) 12:33、 次𠀧、 𣈜23𣎃4𢆥2019 (+07)

关于喃字转写工具

您好。我是MOONJEONG JU。我大学时的专业是韩国语,二外是日语。由于我不是越南语专业出身的,对于越南语和喃字简直说是一窍不通,但是我愿意持续深入学习、继续了解。我在自己尝试将越南语由国语字转写为喃字的过程中,从朋友处了解到有一个“喃字转写工具”。但是我不知道其所指具体为何物,敬请不吝赐教。还请以后能多多提携。 MOONJEONG JU (討論) 01:33、 次𠄩、 𣈜29𣎃4𢆥2019 (+07)

关于喃字转写工具

这个群我已经加了,在群里咨询就可以了是吧。我之前尝试转写,是先用谷歌把越南文翻译成中文,然后参照谷歌的中文译文从那个喃字网站上一个字一个字往下扣。MOONJEONG JU (討論) 21:06、 次𦉱、 𣈜4𣎃5𢆥2019 (+07)

Mediawiki更新

您好,目前Mediawiki已经更新到了1.38,本维基目前已经严重脱节。现在不知管理員是否有意向更新/Xin chào, Mediawiki đã được cập nhật lên 1.38 và wiki này hiện đã mất liên lạc nghiêm trọng. Bây giờ tôi không biết nếu người quản lý có ý định cập nhật

漢喃總表

您好,我來自中文維基。您整理的漢喃總表給了很大的幫助,讓我在建立越南人物條目時有參考依據。請問我是否能將該頁面備份到個人維基百科頁面呢?非常感謝。-Terry850324